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Post by martinev2 on Mar 27, 2006 10:19:03 GMT 1
Ok this is the place to discuss the eps shown in America for the peeps who are up to date and so we don't spoil it for the peeps who are following the Dutch broadcasting schedule.
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Post by MAD on Mar 28, 2006 19:03:03 GMT 1
Okay, I'll kick this off. I thought the final episode was shocking, but also far fetched at some points. The year jump surprised me and I even though it would be as easy as that Baltar dreamt all this and they'd continue back in space again in the next season with him waking up. Ron Moore on the other hand said on his blog that this was the easy way out and wasn't the one he was going to take.
I still have a feeling though that most of this was done for the spectacle rather than to make good plot.
The one year jump was way too sudden, the developments were way too strange. Like Chief marrying and getting Cally pregnant. Okay she forgave him for almost beating her to death and told him she loved him, but does this mean he suddenly loves her too? She did kill "his" Sharon and he was still battling the after though of him being in love with a Cylon when he beat her up. That's quite a turn around to fall in love with her and getting her pregnant!!! I hope they'll at least tell some of those stories next season.
Then the settlement. They couldn't have picked a worse spot to settle. It's one big mud pool. No fresh water, no game to hunt or lumber to built houses from. And after one year settlement to still live in tents really amazed me. Chief is trying to control a riot, while he should have worried about getting houses built!
And why are the battlestars and most of the civilian ships still in space? Now they have to fly up and down to get food and medicine. They could have landed. It would have been a far better place to live then these tents in a mud pool (until they built houses).
And somehow I think in the next season, they'll tear themselves away from the Cylon occupation, the ships fly in to rescue them and they're on the run again. So was it all to shock the viewers I really asked myself?!?!?
Who's next?
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Post by martinev2 on Mar 28, 2006 20:05:16 GMT 1
At first I felt like you. It was an easy way out for much of the storylines and I didn't like it. But I read it as a spoiler so I had a couple of weeks to get used to it and when I saw it it didn't came as a shock to me. But yes it was too sudden. They should have build it up or do it after the break so the viewers really expierence it that way. And a year is waaaaay to long for a time jump. Three months would have had the same effects with the tents and all and it wouldn't have a married Starbuck (*shudders) and a pregnant Cally bleh. But overall I did enjoy the episode and the last 5 minutes made up a lot. Sorry I have a weak spot for Matthew Bennet aka nr.5/ Aaron Doral But to judge the season finale properly we have to see what they do with the first couple of eps of season 3 first. A lot will depend on that. If they are back into space after 4 eps or so the whole time jump would be a farce and for nothing.
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Post by MAD on Mar 28, 2006 20:57:08 GMT 1
What I also really thought was strange, was the whole built up of the Cylon story. They show that the Cylons are rebuilding Caprica. Cleaning up the city, rebuilding the houses... For what? I hope they'll explain that story arc later as well!
And why did they first give up the fight with the human race and later decide to come back any way? They knew they found this new planet. They didn't need a nuclear blast for that. The priest Cylon went to Caprica, could have easily talked with the Cylons there, because he already knew about the planet then.
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Post by martinev2 on Mar 29, 2006 7:43:18 GMT 1
The priest cylon didn't go to Caprica? Don't know where you get that idea from. There where two cylon priests. One in the fleet and one on Caprica. The cylon in the fleet knew that there was a planet, but the location was still a secret. At least I think so since all the ships had to jump to the planet when Baltar was elected. But even if it was he couldn't have gone to Caprica and tell the others. Now the fleetpriest could have easily tell the others in the fleet about the planet but then you have a problem of transmiting the message. In Final Cut we saw/ heard D'anna say that it cost 2 raiders to retrieve the footage. Both priests were thrown out of the airlock after the conversation they had with Roslyn and since the Res. Ship was gone I don't think they made it back . So I don't think they knew BUT the other points are weird indeed. What is the cylon plan exactly? Sometimes I think the writers don't even know. They seem to switch objectives. And that would be fine but the viewers need some explanation or at least a bit more about that. i mean after Downloaded it was pretty clear that there was to become a schism between the cylons and I was looking forward in seeing that but then......they skipped a year.......... It would have made a lot of things clearer and more believable if they just explained it but perhaps they will make up for a bit of the lost time in flashback. God only knows we had a LOT of those in the second part of season 2. Don't get me wrong it's still my number one series but they're getting messy and have to be carefull.
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Post by mikedx on Oct 21, 2006 5:49:56 GMT 1
Best episode ever!!!
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Post by joel on Oct 22, 2006 4:38:58 GMT 1
It's definatly in the top 5 for sure! Man, that stuff that Adama pulled....frakking awesome!
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Post by martinev2 on Oct 22, 2006 19:33:10 GMT 1
Yup pretty neat to see that battlestar fall to the ground and make a jump last minute.
WOW
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Post by mikedx on Oct 23, 2006 0:42:33 GMT 1
Oh yeah, when they launched their vipers and was plummeting to the ground before the jump was just awesome!
I liked how the Pegasus's arm broke off and took out that other Cylon Basestar. I figured the Pegasus would have got destroyed sooner or later, but I'm glad it took this long. If that now pansy Apollo would have went with his father to begin with, maybe they'd still have two ships.
I also liked where the rest of the fleet was near atmosphere for the raptors to evacuate the fleet.
Now that the Galactica is near destroyed, I'll be interested if they actually show them putting it back together instead of ignoring the plot thread.
I'm also intersted in seeing what happens now. I assume Baltar is with the cylons (now like the old series). Will he be like the old Baltar and his only reason for them keeping him alive is try to tell them what the humans are thinking?
Are they following the coordinates to earth now? Is Roslyn going to be president, or are they under martial law? What happens with the half cylon baby? No more Ellen & Mia...
And I thought there were going to be plenty of flashbacks to that year on New Caprica. Including whatever happened between Starbuck & Apollo that caused his personality change.
And how are they going to fit back together? Is Apollo going to be reduced to CAG? What about Starbuck & Kat?
Regardless, this change of events is really going to make things interesting for awhile.
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Post by mikedx on Oct 23, 2006 0:43:23 GMT 1
And why can't they FTL ships/bombs or whatever directly into a Cylon baseship? Should cause a big boom I think.
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Post by joel on Oct 23, 2006 4:14:10 GMT 1
And why can't they FTL ships/bombs or whatever directly into a Cylon baseship? Should cause a big boom I think. Because it wouldn't work right. FTL jumps are hard to calculate, and the chances of getting a bomb jumped into an open area in a Basestar that's moving is next to impossible. If a bomb ends up merged in the Basestar after jumping, it's rendered inert.
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Post by martinev2 on Oct 23, 2006 9:18:56 GMT 1
It's not Star Trek: Voyager so expect the Galactica to be severely damaged for at least a couple of episodes.
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Post by mikedx on Jun 1, 2007 15:36:24 GMT 1
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Post by mikedx on Jul 13, 2007 14:42:14 GMT 1
Galactica.tv will be having a new issue with an interview with no less than the Admiral himself.
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