Lost USA broadcast *SPOILERS*

[marko]

bill said:

. But why let Eko die!?

Because he also got a D.U.I in Hawai, just like Michelle and Cynthia last season.

[mikedx]

I thought Eko got in trouble for not having a driver's license...

I think Kate is going to have to die before the show is over. Why? She was on the run as a fugitive, and could never settle down and be happy. I don't see that ending now. I mean they could have thought that she died on the plane if she got back, but it will still be difficult if she wants a passport or gets a job.

Did you see when Locke looked at Eko's stick. The quote was something like "Lift up your head and look North". I wonder if he will climb a mountain and look north and see the other island?

[Bill]

mikedx said:

I thought Eko got in trouble for not having a driver's license...

I think Kate is going to have to die before the show is over. Why? She was on the run as a fugitive, and could never settle down and be happy. I don't see that ending now. I mean they could have thought that she died on the plane if she got back, but it will still be difficult if she wants a passport or gets a job.

Did you see when Locke looked at Eko's stick. The quote was something like "Lift up your head and look North". I wonder if he will climb a mountain and look north and see the other island?

It said "Lift up your head and look north John" so it was meant for John specifically. But what does it mean? Maybe the other island indeed, but I don't think so because I don't think Eko know's about it...

[mikedx]

I couldn't agree with this article more.

seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/291434_tv08.html

By MELANIE McFARLAND
Wednesday, November 8, 2006

Hey, "Lost," got a minute? We know you're busy packing for that 13-week hiatus that kicks off after tonight.

That's what we want to discuss with you. Have a seat.

Before we get to the core of the matter, thank you for two exciting seasons. The first really got us. Outsiders blamed our fierce loyalty back then on the head-over-heels rush of endorphins all of us experience at the beginning of a saucy new relationship. Make no mistake, that's what we have -- a relationship. An intricate serialized drama like you requires total commitment. That was crystal from the get-go.

Week after week you teased us with puzzles, filling our brains with questions.

Problem was, you didn't give us enough answers. Then you'd leave us frequently and without explanation during season two, making us wade through repeats and clip shows. Not cool, "Lost." Not cool.

Even through that, we preached patience. Hell, when most viewers wanted to truss up Michelle Rodriguez, coat her head to toe in bacon grease and leave her at the mercy of the island's polar bear, we hung tough.

Now, standing on the edge of season three's winter break, something's amiss and you know it. Oh, sure, you remain one of ABC's most successful series. Last week you snagged about 16.1 million viewers. As advertiser bait goes, you're still tops.

Our issue is that you don't take us places anymore. You've gotten rid of almost everything we liked about you. No more Eko. No more alarming discoveries or profound mysteries. Not enough Hurley.

"Lost," you're boring us.

Don't look at us like that -- look at yourself! Where you once brought us Dharma Initiative weirdness, tasty power struggles and sinister island dwellers, now we have dirty Sawyer, mud-slicked Kate and sweaty Jack sitting around in cages.

Hurley, Charlie and the rest of the survivors are wandering the beach doing next to nothing. Locke has turned into Mr. Rogers with a Bowie knife.

Seriously, would it kill you to actually do something for once?

Killing the only Tailie that we liked doesn't count. Quite the contrary. When that cloud of smoke beat Mr. Eko to death, some of us hit our limit. Not only did you off your best-loved character, you did so with an entity nobody has even come close to understanding.

To be fair, you have an acceptable defense for showing Eko his final exit. Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje wanted to return to London to work on a film he plans to direct. Honestly, though -- death by raging pollutant? It's been three seasons. We've put in our time. You owe us some inkling of what the deal is with Ol' Smokey.

Heaping insult on top of that, you replaced Eko and the other wasted Tailies with Nikki (Kiele Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro), a couple ripped straight out of the JCPenney catalog underwear section. Dull and duller! Nathan Fillion shows up on tonight's episode, and we can't wait to see what he'll do. That's because we loved him in "Firefly." Oh, you thought our anticipation had something to do with you? Sorry.

Your executive producers, J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse, claim to have a plan, so we've heard. Some of us are starting to have serious doubts about that, but OK.

Even if everything's mapped out, the numbers don't lie. Viewers are leaving you every week for "Criminal Minds" on CBS. That procedural that doesn't come close to matching your intelligence and complexity, yet it's putting its boot to your backside in the ratings department.

You know what "Criminal Minds" has that you don't, besides almost 1 million more viewers as of last week? Plots that move.

Tune into "Criminal Minds" and a viewer is guaranteed a solid and electrifying start, a taut center and a firm ending. With you, we get Sawyer gnawing on fish biscuits and taking beatings.

"Lost," you still won among 18- to 49-year-olds by a 32 percent margin, so the news isn't all clouds and misery. Given the sand trap where you've stuck the plot, however, you can't blame us for turning to CBS for a little "wham-bam-thank-you, ma'am" fun with serial killers.

A number of us believe this relationship is worth salvaging. First, you're going to have to change a few things. Start with this: We want action. The bedrock of every relationship. The problem with this season is fairly basic -- nothing interesting or amazing has been happening on the island that you've led us to believe is both of those things and more. That needs to change, and pronto.

In order to jump-start the motor, you'll have to use your get-out-of-jail-free card. Spring Jack, Sawyer and Kate, and get on with the rest of the season. Nobody likes seeing central characters brought to heel for weeks on end. Look at Sci Fi Channel's "Battlestar Galactica," which reached a fork in the plot similar to yours. The series' human protagonists were under Cylon occupation and the producers wanted to show things from the enemy's point of view. That lasted for three episodes, then BOOM! The humans are back on their ships and merrily zipping through space. Balance, as the series presents it, was restored in short order. As long as the island's group is split apart and aimless, nothing exciting can happen. Break 'em out tonight. Then you'll have a cliffhanger working for you.

Also, how about you ditch the focus on The Others? Scale it back, at least. We've tried to embrace the whole exploration of what their goal is, but the more time we spend among The Others, the more it occurs to us that Ben, Juliet and their neighbors are pretty much just suburbanites with rusty moral compasses, lab equipment and too much time on their hands. "Lost," you hinted at Dr. Moreau-style madness, only to pull back the curtain and reveal an evil cul-de-sac that could have been set in Monroe, Wash.

After all that is rectified, you'd better start answering some questions. We still haven't forgotten about the statue with the four toes. Nobody gets why that polar bear is there and, after Eko's death, the secret behind the smoke demon had better melt our brains.

Shape up, "Lost," because you're not the only unusual option out there. We have our eyes on a new guy, NBC's "Heroes," on Monday nights. "Heroes" might not be as smart as you, but it's always a good time. We could easily redirect our passion over to NBC and abandon you completely.

Fortunately, you have until your Feb. 7 return to fix what's broken. Take this time to think about our relationship, then start doing better by us ... or else.

[mikedx]

This is how the show said that Eko died:


Lost executive producers Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof told TV Guide's Michael Ausiello that this week's death of a major character was planned all along. (Spoilers ahead!) In the Nov. 1 episode, Mr. Eko (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) met his demise in the clutches of the mysterious smoke monster.

Cuse told Ausiello that Mr. Eko was never long for this world. "When Adewale came on the show, he didn't want to make a long-term commitment to a series," Cuse said. "We love him, and so we agreed that he would come on the show, and then we would find a time in which his arc would come to an end. And we sort of felt after a lot of conversations with him - most of which took place at the end of the spring last year - that we would finish his character somewhere in [these first] six episodes. And as we started talking about what was going to really help the drama of these six episodes, we thought, 'Well, this is the perfect place to do it.' As we said, we all kind of went into this [with the idea] that it was only going to be for a limited period of time."

As for rumors that Akinnuoye-Agbaje had strained relations with the rest of the cast and crew? "We don't really talk about anything other than the creative decisions made on the show," Lindelof said. "If you're hearing it from other people, you're not hearing that from us. Not to mention, we're in L.A. So we would never let that kind of thing determine the creative direction of the show. We're all in the service of the story." Lost winds up its first six episodes of the season on Nov. 8 before taking a 13-week hiatus. It airs Wednesdays at 9 p.m. PT/ET.

[Bill]

Well the last episode, which had Fillion in it, was very good imo. But I'm curious if the creator's will do something with the comments of the fans. Because I feel it as well... I kind of miss the old group (Hurley, Sayid, Charlie, Claire, Jin, Sun etc.).. We've gotten the whole focus-on-the-others kinda thing, now it's time to get the focus back on the old gang. And get some thrills going, some excitement... I still think that LOST is the best series ever, and every show has got a weaker season... but we still have 15+ episodes to go before season 3 ends, and I have confidence that the thing we all love about LOST definitely will return in the next episodes! Hey, we have only gotten 6 episodes yet! And from that 6 episodes, 3 weren't all that good compared to the rest. All shows have that. So I don't really understand why people give up on LOST so bloody fast... it's a bloody tv-god!

[marko]

The article hits the nail right on top (translation of a dutch sentence) if you know what i mean

[mikedx]

marko,

We say "hit the nail on the head" over here.

[mikedx]

Some slight spoilers, but something to get you ready for the next part of the season.

And Bill, they keeping saying Season 4, so it's going to go another year.

From

www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20010504,00.html

All AboutLost By Jeff Jensen Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''You've got questions, we've got answers — straight from the mouths of Lost exec producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. We sifted through more than 2,000 queries from EW readers and presented the most pressing to the powers that be.

What happened to Michael and Walt?
CARLTON CUSE: We put a pin in the Michael and Walt story for the season, but by no means is it over. It would be very strange for the end of Michael and Walt to just send them off in that boat without any acknowledgment of what has happened. But if you look at the bigger picture of Lost, there's a circularity to the way that story is going to unfold in the overall mythology, and that is a long, planned approach. Yes, we'll get back to the Michael and Walt story, and it will be really compelling when we do. But that's most likely a year 4 story.
DAMON LINDELOF: Michael and Walt are the first characters on the show to ''get off the island.'' But the pervasive question remains: What is ''off the island''?

Are we going to get the history of the Others in one shot, or will this be revealed over time?
LINDELOF: It's definitely unfolding. We will begin to find out how certain members of the Others joined the Others. Episode 7 should play as a surprise to some audience members that Juliet was not born on the island — she came off the island and was recruited by the Others. So some of them were born there and some of them were recruited, but what they are there to do will be revealed before who put them there and why.
CUSE: The connection between the Others and Dharma gets revealed in episode 11.

When will we see Libby again? Will we ever learn how she got into the mental hospital with Hurley?
CUSE: Given everything else we have to tell, that's going to be a mystery that's going to have to get answered in year 4.
LINDELOF: There's really one significant missing piece to Libby's story. We saw in the season finale last year that she met with Desmond, she gave him his boat, and we know that her husband died — and then we know that subsequent to that, she spent some time in a mental institution, the same one as Hurley. The question the audience wants answered is, How did she get from A to B — from Desmond to the mental institution? We know the answer to that question, but the only way to tell that story is through another character's flashback, and that character would have to be another character on the show who is not among the beach dwellers.

What is the significance of the horse that Kate saw?
CUSE: People seem mystified by this. I would say this: We have seen a number of apparitions on the island, from Jack's dad to Kate's horse. You'll be getting more of an understanding of those apparitions during the course of this season.
LINDELOF: What is the nature of those apparitions? By definition, an apparition shouldn't be something you could go up and touch, or that other people should be able to see. And yet, Kate's horse is real. It is living in the physical world. Sawyer sees it; Kate goes up and touches it. Does the horse bear a striking resemblance to a horse that provided her an escape in her past as a fugitive, or is it the same exact horse? That is a fundamental question. But look at the show in total. Here's Christian Shepherd [Jack's dad]. Here's Yemi [Eko's brother]. Here's the horse. Here's Walt. [Remember, Walt appeared to Shannon, and later to Shannon and Sayid in a backwards-speaking vision.] Are all those things the same thing, or are some of them different things?
CUSE: We're also using these things to set up an animated sitcom spin-off called ''Kate's Horse and Sayid's Cat.''
LINDELOF: That's right. Sayid's cat is coming up in episode 11. We're not joking.
CUSE: Except for the animated part.

What is the meaning or significance of the two skeletons that Jack and Kate found in the cave of season 1?
CUSE: The answer to that question goes to the nature of the timeline of the island. We don't want to say too much about it, but there are a couple Easter eggs embedded in [the Feb. 7 episode], one of which is an anagram that actually sheds some light on the skeletons and hints at a larger mythological mystery that will start to unfold later in the season.
LINDELOF: There were certain things we knew from the very beginning. Independent of ever knowing when the end was going to be, we knew what it was going to be, and we wanted to start setting it up as early as season 1, or else people would think that we were making it up as we were going along. So the skeletons are the living — or, I guess, slowly decomposing — proof of that. When all is said and done, people are going to point to the skeletons and say, ''That is proof that from the very beginning, they always knew that they were going to do this.''

Last season, we saw in Ana Lucia's flashback that she witnessed an argument between Christian Shepherd and a woman in Australia, in which Christian demanded to see his daughter. The burning question/conspiracy theory that fans have is this: Is Claire Jack's half sister?
CUSE: We're not going to answer that question — but the show will. In the next six episodes.

Did Desmond's failure to press the button REALLY cause the plane to crash — or is there more to this story?
LINDELOF: In terms of the pragmatic reality, Oceanic 815 never would have crashed had Desmond pushed the button. But is there a larger, more faith-based, spiritualized reason that these people happened to be on that plane when he failed to press the button? If Desmond hadn't run into Jack at that stadium, would he have made the same choices that he made in his life? They all impact each other's lives. The fact that that guy is on that plane up there, and Desmond brings that plane down, it speaks to an interrelatedness among characters, why these people, why do they all connect. No amount of mythological answers will ever speak to this. That's the one thing that when the show ends, you won't have a causal explanation for why did all these people interconnect. Why some, why not others? The answer is just that they just do. The show is a massive Rube Goldberg device, in which all the components of the machinery are humans.

Even though The Hatch blew up, will we return to the mystery of the Dharma map that Desmond's previous Hatch occupants were painting on the retractable blast door?
CUSE: We will be visiting another Dharma station soon. But the map becomes less important, because when they visit this new station, they'll be getting some new information that helps them understand where the Dharma people lived and where their stations are.

Will Penelope ever become a significiant character, and when will we get a follow-up to the monumentally dramatic revelation at the end of season 2 that the EM burst was detected off the island?
CUSE: Penelope's story continues in episode 8 [Feb. 14] in Desmond's flashbacks. We put that scene at the end of the season finale for a reason, and like the anagram, they're components to a larger revelation. You'll learn more about why we put that scene at the end of season 2 by the end of season 3.

Does time pass differently on the island than off the island?
LINDELOF: That's a really perceptive question. We know that the Others taped the Red Sox win the World Series in 2004... so that would seem to indicate that time flows the same both on and off. But then again, when the sky turns purple and the ground shakes... wait. Hold on. Carlton is wringing my neck.
CUSE: Yes. Time passes very slowly because they don't have American Idol to watch.

In the ''death of Mr. Eko'' episode, it was my interpretation that the Monster was able to assume human form, i.e., Eko's brother. Am I crazy for thinking that? And will we learn anything more about the Monster's origins this season?
LINDELOF: You're not crazy. You will see the monster again this season. Its origins, however... well, you'll have to wait.
CUSE: Whether or not you learn more about it will depend on how obsessive you are. If you enjoy recording the program and studying individual frames, you might. But really, is that healthy?

Is there a mystery you will never solve?
LINDELOF: We will never give story time to revealing the construction of the infamous rope bridge.
CUSE: And honestly, we're never going to tell you why the French lady has a Yugoslavian accent.

[marko]

This show is doomed to fail down the road.

[Bill]

That's a bit drastic isn't it. The last 3 episodes of season 3 before the stop were excellent, en I have very good hopes for the rest to come!

[mikedx]

Well I got bummed out about how dark it's been with Jack, Kate, and Sawyer being kept prisoner. But I look forward now when Holloway talks about how funny Sawyer is going to be in the future.

[marko]

Finally, the last epsiode of Lost was finally an episode which got me excitent again. Still alot more questions, and no real answers, but it had the drama again.

The thing what did got me thinking though, were they hinting that maybe Charlie is the next one to die ? I mean, Desmond says he saved him twice now (drowning and lightning) but he can't fool destiny everytime (kinda like Final Destination)?

[Bill]

marko said:

Finally, the last epsiode of Lost was finally an episode which got me excitent again. Still alot more questions, and no real answers, but it had the drama again.

Sounds cool! I'm gonna watch it tonight. Can't wait.

[mikedx]

Well FINALLY we get to see the rest of the castaways. I didn't like Desmond until this episode, but now I like him. It was a fantastic backstory for him.

The thing I don't understand is that Charlie is only supposed to die because he's near Claire and she's the one that's really supposed to die. Desmond doesn't seem to care whether she dies, he's just trying to save Charlie.

So shouldn't they be saying that Claire is the one that's supposed to get killed? And as long as Charlie's around her he's going too? Desmond just tells Charlie that he's going to die.